Wait, What?

People are writing open letters to me? Weird.

I will answer the question, though:

…you started the collaboration of competing toolkits that led to the creation of Dojo. How did you do it!?!?

We did it by pointing out to folks who were working on their own things that the personal effort radius exists (i.e., we’d each pioneered some aspect of the complete toolkit but could never drive it to completion on our own) and that we can get further together than apart. From there, experience took over. This is a notable contrast to what happened after and in different circles where developers maybe didn’t have as many KLOC of JS under their belts. With fewer sleepless nights of debugging, optimizing, and porting it’s harder to see what’s ahead and apply the discipline necessary to avoid it. Part of that accommodation for the future is compromise. And why would anyone want to compromise and work with other people when they don’t feel like they really need to? It’s fun being the smartest person in the room, and if you don’t let other people in as equals, you always are. Swallowing that pride is the big transition. Isn’t it always?

I guess what it comes down to is that I didn’t try to organize people who didn’t see the value in organization: instead, I tried to organize folks whose experience was valuable in terms of personal maturity and not just facility with code. We picked a hard technical problem and an easier social problem knowing that the social aspects were more critical. Did we succeed? Yes, but only in the ways we set out to succeed. Dojo continues and is outstanding for the problems it was designed to solve, but the JS market has strong winner-take-all dynamics and the high-end toolkits like Dojo all compete for a highly-knowledgeable, experienced set of developers who understand not only the problem they have today but also the problems they’re going to have in a month or two. We built Dojo with folks like that, for folks like that. I should have known then what I see clearly now, though: the fact that there are relatively few experienced, disciplined developers in the world means that when you build things for them, relatively few people will understand what you’ve done.

Welcome to the club, Justin.


  1. Posted September 22, 2010 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the response. I couldn’t find an email address or other way of posting the question directly to you. So, I thought why not publicly post it to get people to share their ideas (and potentially your experience).

    My apologies if it was weird.

  2. Posted September 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    No apologies needed! It was weird in an astonished-but-awesome sort of way. Also, it worked. You can reach me privately in the future at slightlyoff at chromium dot org or alex at dojotoolkit dot org.