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	<title>Comments on: Bits and Remainders</title>
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	<description>Alex Russell on browsers, standards, and the process of progress.</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Bouba</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating talk - I&#039;d really love to start a conversation about some of the content you discussed. At the moment, I&#039;m trying to solidify my opinions about the web, for better or worse, and I&#039;ve been thinking a lot about some of the topics you spoke of. I want to believe that accessibility is extremely important; that it is, as you quoted, &#039;The. Most. Important. Thing.&#039; But, pardon my tone, is it more than just a speaking point for you? You dedicated such a small amount of time to accessibility in your lecture, and spent so much time talking about the benefits of modern browsers. But I wonder, to that blind individual who you mentioned, the one who is ignored by &#039;dickish&#039; developers, of what importance is the modern browser? Am I missing something?

This is the sense that I have about frontend developers proselytizing about accessibility: it seems to me like a rhetoric; something that few of us actually have first-hand experience suffering through the consequences of neglecting to take into account. Now, I definitely don&#039;t know enough about you or your work to assume that you fall into this category, so please take no offense; this is less an accusation and more an honest entreaty for dialogue. Personally, I&#039;ve never used a screen-reader; in fact, I doubt I&#039;ve ever talked to anyone who uses a screen-reader. I have a theory that well-meaning if slightly misguided developers carry the banner of accessibility for reasons that perhaps relate quite little to accessibility: it is a framework, a set of rules, an architecture within which to work; nerds like systems and like being able to criticize those who foolishly ignore the etiquette. Perhaps this doesn&#039;t matter; accessibility is indeed important, so what do I care about the rationale that promotes it? I think what really bothers me is the lack of humility, and the feeling of being bullied. Almost any Stack Overflow search will yield snarky, self-righteous, impatient comments. OK, so this is a bit of a tangent, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unrelated to the accessibility thing. Anyway, if you&#039;re interested, I&#039;d love for you to shed some light on this for me. I&#039;ve only been working in this field for the past couple years, and I&#039;m still trying to figure out my place in it. I am constantly inspired and awestruck by the bold and generous work that I see; I&#039;m also regularly disappointed by a surprising pettiness that masquerades as something grander.  

I&#039;d love to have a frank discussion about this if you&#039;re willing. I really don&#039;t mean to be picking on you; you are obviously a very intelligent and thoughtful person and I&#039;d love to hear your perspective about this issue. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating talk &#8211; I&#8217;d really love to start a conversation about some of the content you discussed. At the moment, I&#8217;m trying to solidify my opinions about the web, for better or worse, and I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about some of the topics you spoke of. I want to believe that accessibility is extremely important; that it is, as you quoted, &#8216;The. Most. Important. Thing.&#8217; But, pardon my tone, is it more than just a speaking point for you? You dedicated such a small amount of time to accessibility in your lecture, and spent so much time talking about the benefits of modern browsers. But I wonder, to that blind individual who you mentioned, the one who is ignored by &#8216;dickish&#8217; developers, of what importance is the modern browser? Am I missing something?</p>
<p>This is the sense that I have about frontend developers proselytizing about accessibility: it seems to me like a rhetoric; something that few of us actually have first-hand experience suffering through the consequences of neglecting to take into account. Now, I definitely don&#8217;t know enough about you or your work to assume that you fall into this category, so please take no offense; this is less an accusation and more an honest entreaty for dialogue. Personally, I&#8217;ve never used a screen-reader; in fact, I doubt I&#8217;ve ever talked to anyone who uses a screen-reader. I have a theory that well-meaning if slightly misguided developers carry the banner of accessibility for reasons that perhaps relate quite little to accessibility: it is a framework, a set of rules, an architecture within which to work; nerds like systems and like being able to criticize those who foolishly ignore the etiquette. Perhaps this doesn&#8217;t matter; accessibility is indeed important, so what do I care about the rationale that promotes it? I think what really bothers me is the lack of humility, and the feeling of being bullied. Almost any Stack Overflow search will yield snarky, self-righteous, impatient comments. OK, so this is a bit of a tangent, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unrelated to the accessibility thing. Anyway, if you&#8217;re interested, I&#8217;d love for you to shed some light on this for me. I&#8217;ve only been working in this field for the past couple years, and I&#8217;m still trying to figure out my place in it. I am constantly inspired and awestruck by the bold and generous work that I see; I&#8217;m also regularly disappointed by a surprising pettiness that masquerades as something grander.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have a frank discussion about this if you&#8217;re willing. I really don&#8217;t mean to be picking on you; you are obviously a very intelligent and thoughtful person and I&#8217;d love to hear your perspective about this issue. Thanks!</p>
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