Comments on: Dojo 1.3b3 Is Out http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A Bit of Closure | Continuing Intermittent Incoherency http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-236621 A Bit of Closure | Continuing Intermittent Incoherency Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:09:43 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-236621 [...] version of Dojo. The APIs feel familiar, the class hierarchies seem natural, and Closure even uses Acme, the Dojo CSS selector engine. It’s impressive work and congrats are in order for Arv, Dan, [...] [...] version of Dojo. The APIs feel familiar, the class hierarchies seem natural, and Closure even uses Acme, the Dojo CSS selector engine. It’s impressive work and congrats are in order for Arv, Dan, [...]

]]> By: Dojo Wins Mobile Slickspeed Shootout | Continuing Intermittent Incoherency http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235997 Dojo Wins Mobile Slickspeed Shootout | Continuing Intermittent Incoherency Thu, 14 May 2009 19:27:09 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235997 [...] engine performance really matters. Dojo continues to do very well in TaskSpeed in part because the Acme selector engine is so darned [...] [...] engine performance really matters. Dojo continues to do very well in TaskSpeed in part because the Acme selector engine is so darned [...]

]]> By: Dojo 1.3 Is Out! | Continuing Intermittent Incoherency http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235666 Dojo 1.3 Is Out! | Continuing Intermittent Incoherency Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:16:14 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235666 [...] CSS selector engine which provides a big boost in speed for many operations in the fast-path. I blogged before about the work we did to make Acme fast, and rest assured it is (in aggregate, across all use [...] [...] CSS selector engine which provides a big boost in speed for many operations in the fast-path. I blogged before about the work we did to make Acme fast, and rest assured it is (in aggregate, across all use [...]

]]> By: JP http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235636 JP Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:10:22 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235636 Another great release, we're having a hard time keeping up with Dojo with traditional product release schedules, you guys are moving so fast. :-) One question, you link to this page... http://download.dojotoolkit.org/release-1.3.0b3/dojo-release-1.3.0b3/dojo/tests/_base/queryPortability.html As a demo of "stand alone" query.js, but that page errors out in FF3 and Safari. Is there something else in that page that I'm missing? Another great release, we’re having a hard time keeping up with Dojo with traditional product release schedules, you guys are moving so fast. :-)

One question, you link to this page…

http://download.dojotoolkit.org/release-1.3.0b3/dojo-release-1.3.0b3/dojo/tests/_base/queryPortability.html

As a demo of “stand alone” query.js, but that page errors out in FF3 and Safari. Is there something else in that page that I’m missing?

]]> By: Dojo Toolkit 1.3 Beta is Out | clauswitt.com http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235635 Dojo Toolkit 1.3 Beta is Out | clauswitt.com Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:31:37 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235635 [...] Russel just (well a couple of days ago) anounced that the beta of the newest version of Dojo Toolkit is available. I’m looking forward to the [...] [...] Russel just (well a couple of days ago) anounced that the beta of the newest version of Dojo Toolkit is available. I’m looking forward to the [...]

]]> By: Ajaxian » Dojo 1.3 is coming http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235633 Ajaxian » Dojo 1.3 is coming Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:40:05 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235633 [...] Russell has posted on Dojo 1.3b3 which we have actually been using on Bespin. So why should you be switching to Dojo or upgrading [...] [...] Russell has posted on Dojo 1.3b3 which we have actually been using on Bespin. So why should you be switching to Dojo or upgrading [...]

]]> By: alex http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235632 alex Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:18:31 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235632 Steven: The FF3.0 performance backslide is the result of not having a faster-than-DOM branch on FF 3.0 any more. This was a tough call, since the XPath engine was pretty clean and easy to maintain, but we just couldn't afford to include it given the byte budget constratins. Our calculation here is that w/ the imminent release of 3.1...er, 3.5, FF will (on average) be running on the QSA branch more of the time than on the DOM branch. While it does regress compared to 1.2.3, I suspect that 1.3b3 is probably still faster than most other engines on FF 3.0. Regards Steven:

The FF3.0 performance backslide is the result of not having a faster-than-DOM branch on FF 3.0 any more. This was a tough call, since the XPath engine was pretty clean and easy to maintain, but we just couldn’t afford to include it given the byte budget constratins. Our calculation here is that w/ the imminent release of 3.1…er, 3.5, FF will (on average) be running on the QSA branch more of the time than on the DOM branch. While it does regress compared to 1.2.3, I suspect that 1.3b3 is probably still faster than most other engines on FF 3.0.

Regards

]]> By: Steven Bower http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235631 Steven Bower Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:03:39 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235631 I included Dojo 1.3b3 into my <a href="http://selectors.turnwheel.com/" rel="nofollow">CSS Selector Benchmark</a>, and have so far turned up interesting results. This benchmark compares it to many other frameworks (including Dojo 1.2.3) on many different browsers. There are significant speed improvements from 1.2.3 on most browsers, with the exception of Firefox 3 (not 3.1) and Opera 9. Also it seems the "p:only-child" bug was fixed in 1.3; though there are still issues with the :contians() selector (See "Known Issues") Currently 1.3b3 does hold the top spot on my "Top Frameworks" graph, but that's because I haven't included a large enough browser sample with the new framework. Though it should give jQuery a run for it's money in speed. I included Dojo 1.3b3 into my CSS Selector Benchmark, and have so far turned up interesting results. This benchmark compares it to many other frameworks (including Dojo 1.2.3) on many different browsers.

There are significant speed improvements from 1.2.3 on most browsers, with the exception of Firefox 3 (not 3.1) and Opera 9.

Also it seems the “p:only-child” bug was fixed in 1.3; though there are still issues with the :contians() selector (See “Known Issues”)

Currently 1.3b3 does hold the top spot on my “Top Frameworks” graph, but that’s because I haven’t included a large enough browser sample with the new framework. Though it should give jQuery a run for it’s money in speed.

]]> By: alex http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235629 alex Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:29:00 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235629 ben: Wait...ContentPane doesn't have an addChild? That's totally whack. I'll ping Bill about it. Regards ben:

Wait…ContentPane doesn’t have an addChild? That’s totally whack. I’ll ping Bill about it.

Regards

]]> By: alex http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235628 alex Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:27:59 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235628 RichB: If it slips further, should we just start increasing it by a 0.1 for every month? ;-) Regards RichB:

If it slips further, should we just start increasing it by a 0.1 for every month?

;-)

Regards

]]> By: RichB http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235627 RichB Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:58:05 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235627 > the imminent release of Firefox 3.1, Firefox 3.5 now. > the imminent release of Firefox 3.1,

Firefox 3.5 now.

]]> By: ben hockey http://infrequently.org/2009/03/dojo-13b3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-235626 ben hockey Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:33:37 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=888#comment-235626 alex, <a href='http://www.dojotoolkit.org/book/1-3-release-notes' rel="nofollow">the 1.3 (draft) release notes</a> have a section about dijit.layout.ContentPane extending _Container. That should probably be removed since it didn't happen that way... even though i wish it would have. widget.placeAt(contentPane) would have been (was) really convenient - had to go back and change some code that was anticipating it going that way :( maybe ContentPane could get an addChild and then placeAt could work. alex, the 1.3 (draft) release notes have a section about dijit.layout.ContentPane extending _Container. That should probably be removed since it didn’t happen that way… even though i wish it would have. widget.placeAt(contentPane) would have been (was) really convenient – had to go back and change some code that was anticipating it going that way :( maybe ContentPane could get an addChild and then placeAt could work.

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