Slides from my “Standards Heresy” Talk



Above is the PDF from today’s talk. I had a good (but unfortunately truncated) discussion with Aaron Gustafson afterward, and it appears that there are those on the standards advocacy front who understand that those of us who “just make it work” for a living aren’t evil and want exactly the same things. Hopefully this will open up a broader discussion (although I suppose that posting something on a blog hardly counts as “discussion”).

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  1. Stuart Guthrie
    Posted February 14, 2008 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    The PDF seems damaged. I get:
    xpdf Desktop/dojostandards_heresy.pdf
    Error: PDF file is damaged – attempting to reconstruct xref table…
    Error: Couldn’t find trailer dictionary
    Error: Couldn’t read xref table
    XtUngrabButton(drawArea,3,0)
    Warning: Attempt to remove nonexistent passive grab

    and
    evince Desktop/dojostandards_heresy.pdf
    Error: PDF file is damaged – attempting to reconstruct xref table…
    Error: Couldn’t find trailer dictionary
    Error: Couldn’t read xref table
    Error: PDF file is damaged – attempting to reconstruct xref table…
    Error: Couldn’t find trailer dictionary
    Error: Couldn’t read xref table

    I downloaded twice to check. HTH Stuart

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