Comments on: What else is burried down in the depth’s of Google’s amazing JavaScript? http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/ Thu, 10 May 2012 17:22:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Matthew http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-236405 Matthew Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:19:32 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-236405 I've been searching around for this thing called "Comet" or "HTTP streaming" for the past hour or so, and now I find out it's just a lame hack. Why doesn't someone just give JavaScript a socket object, and then we can just do things in a more straightforward way that makes sense? Geez. Do I have to take the overhead of Java or Flash every time I want to open a normal socket connection? I’ve been searching around for this thing called “Comet” or “HTTP streaming” for the past hour or so, and now I find out it’s just a lame hack. Why doesn’t someone just give JavaScript a socket object, and then we can just do things in a more straightforward way that makes sense? Geez. Do I have to take the overhead of Java or Flash every time I want to open a normal socket connection?

]]> By: Comet Daily » Blog Archive » Canonical Comet Apps http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-228233 Comet Daily » Blog Archive » Canonical Comet Apps Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:25:51 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-228233 [...] Shortly after Google launched Google Talk, they added chat to the Gmail interface, providing low-latency IM to all Gmail users. Alex Russell quickly dissected their implementation and learned that Google uses the forever-frame technique. Michael Carter made progress on understanding the htmlfile hack for Internet Explorer. [...] [...] Shortly after Google launched Google Talk, they added chat to the Gmail interface, providing low-latency IM to all Gmail users. Alex Russell quickly dissected their implementation and learned that Google uses the forever-frame technique. Michael Carter made progress on understanding the htmlfile hack for Internet Explorer. [...]

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]]> By: Comet Daily » Blog Archive » HTTP Streaming and Internet Explorer http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-192253 Comet Daily » Blog Archive » HTTP Streaming and Internet Explorer Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:24:55 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-192253 [...] In early 2006, Alex Russell posted about a neat hack that the Google Talk team in Gmail use to support Comet in Internet Explorer, a trick which works as far back as IE 5.01. What great news! A reliable way to stream Comet messages to Microsoft’s browsers. If only it were that easy. [...] [...] In early 2006, Alex Russell posted about a neat hack that the Google Talk team in Gmail use to support Comet in Internet Explorer, a trick which works as far back as IE 5.01. What great news! A reliable way to stream Comet messages to Microsoft’s browsers. If only it were that easy. [...]

]]> By: Jason http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-174441 Jason Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:21:56 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-174441 See this link for info on how to do this in Firefox/Mozilla:<a href="http://meteorserver.org/browser-techniques/" rel="nofollow">http://meteorserver.org/browser-techniques/</a> See this link for info on how to do this in Firefox/Mozilla:http://meteorserver.org/browser-techniques/

]]> By: Aaron http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-85594 Aaron Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:17:50 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-85594 This is quite neat, ajax is pretty neat I just wish they would make it simpler, or turn it into a standard so that instead of opening a big xmlhttp request just have like a line or two of code that could send data and recieve data, or have an option to keep an open connection. Be kinda cool to see if they make web pages in the future be run off of ajax or something similiar so browsers never have to refresh. Regards. This is quite neat, ajax is pretty neat I just wish they would make it simpler, or turn it into a standard so that instead of opening a big xmlhttp request just have like a line or two of code that could send data and recieve data, or have an option to keep an open connection.

Be kinda cool to see if they make web pages in the future be run off of ajax or something similiar so browsers never have to refresh.

Regards.

]]> By: Dok http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-85248 Dok Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:08:29 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-85248 In Firefox you don't need to mess with frames as the XmlHttpRequest will return data as it's being loaded and there is no "throbbing" problem. For IE, has anyone confirmed that you can call code in the parent of the "htmlfile" frame? Alex, you have comments in the cometd.js code to the effect of "TODO: improve with Gmail fix". Any luck? The IE iframe issue being solved, how does gmail get around the 2-connections limit? What are the possible approaches for that as it's a common problem in FF <b><i>and</i></b> IE? The obvious is to change the browser behavior. Good luck with that! We need solutions that work now. (http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-November/007599.html In Firefox you don’t need to mess with frames as the XmlHttpRequest will return data as it’s being loaded and there is no “throbbing” problem.

For IE, has anyone confirmed that you can call code in the parent of the “htmlfile” frame?

Alex, you have comments in the cometd.js code to the effect of “TODO: improve with Gmail fix”. Any luck?

The IE iframe issue being solved, how does gmail get around the 2-connections limit?
What are the possible approaches for that as it’s a common problem in FF and IE?

The obvious is to change the browser behavior. Good luck with that! We need solutions that work now.
(http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-November/007599.html

]]> By: rusty http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-71717 rusty Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:15:16 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-71717 Is this the same as the oracle htmlfile object? Is this the same as the oracle htmlfile object?

]]> By: Ivan Garavito http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-65851 Ivan Garavito Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:02:07 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-65851 Hi Alex, It seems that lots of them can't try something new (to them). I've been tracking some of the Dojo Toolkit. It's really amazing and interisting, but currently I understand that dojo uses Ajax to interact with the server. Do you, the Dojo's development team, plan to adopt, port or migrate to "Comet" model? I know Dojo has the Cometd project, but is this a separated project? or will be integrated into dojo's javascript libraries? If so, which version will include it? Regards, Ivan Garavito Hi Alex,

It seems that lots of them can’t try something new (to them). I’ve been tracking some of the Dojo Toolkit. It’s really amazing and interisting, but currently I understand that dojo uses Ajax to interact with the server. Do you, the Dojo’s development team, plan to adopt, port or migrate to “Comet” model? I know Dojo has the Cometd project, but is this a separated project? or will be integrated into dojo’s javascript libraries? If so, which version will include it?

Regards,
Ivan Garavito

]]> By: alex http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-61453 alex Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:19:55 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-61453    

]]> By: rick http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-61451 rick Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:15:16 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-61451 Is here anybody who have found out the solution in firefox? Is here anybody who have found out the solution in firefox?

]]> By: KooKiz http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-57868 KooKiz Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:20:14 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-57868  I don't think there's something equivalent for firefox...  I don’t think there’s something equivalent for firefox…

]]> By: Bench http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-45998 Bench Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:06:43 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-45998 incidentally, what would be the equivalent to this: var transferDoc = new ActiveXObject("htmlfile"); // !?! for Firefox? incidentally, what would be the equivalent to this:

var transferDoc = new ActiveXObject(“htmlfile”); // !?!

for Firefox?

]]> By: Bench http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-45995 Bench Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:48:25 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-45995 Interesting, but how do you call functions IN the window that opens the transferDoc FROM the iframe inside the transferDoc ? I see no logic with this at all: transferDoc.parentWindow.foo = foo; Interesting, but how do you call functions IN the window that opens the transferDoc FROM the iframe inside the transferDoc ?

I see no logic with this at all:

transferDoc.parentWindow.foo = foo;

]]> By: fishbone http://infrequently.org/2006/02/what-else-is-burried-down-in-the-depths-of-googles-amazing-javascript/comment-page-2/#comment-45454 fishbone Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:01:26 +0000 http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=538#comment-45454 transferDoc.parentWindow.foo = foo; It works well, but I discover another fatal problem,the "htmlfile" activexobject will timeout after about 30s autolly,And the iframe doesn't output anything. transferDoc.parentWindow.foo = foo;
It works well,
but I discover another fatal problem,the “htmlfile” activexobject will timeout after about 30s autolly,And the iframe doesn’t output anything.

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